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The Cost of Butterfly Kisses, Part 19

Fandom/Pairing: BtVS, Spike/Xander


Rated: ADULT

Summary: Spike wants to be the one who is there for Buffy, but life has never been that kind to him..

WARNING:  This series follows seasons 6 and 7 of BtVS.  The events of Seeing Red are included, just in a form more in keeping with this Spike and this universe.  If that epidode upset you, this chapter will too.     

(Chapter One... )  ( Chapter Two... )  Chapter Three... ) ( Chapter Four... ) ( Chapter Five )   ( Chapter Six )   Chapter 7 )  Chapter 8 )  ( Chapter Nine )  ( Chapter Ten )   Chapter Eleven )  Chapter Twelve )Chapter Thirteen ) ( Chapter 14 . )Chapter 15 )  Chapter 16 )Chapter 17 )Chapter 18 )



Nineteen

Then next night, Spike cut through the dungeon level rather than risk running into Xander and his brooding. It reminded him too much of Angel and his constant whining about how he wasn't human anymore. Git. Some days Spike wondered if it wouldn't be a mercy to just stake his overgelled sire.

Of course, if he did that, he'd never get to see Angel's face when the big poof found out that Spike had succeeded where he hadn't. Years ago he'd told those two that love was passion, it was blood and fire and passion, but Angel was such a dead fish that he couldn't match Buffy. Spike was a much better mate. And now that Warren was out of the picture, Spike could focus on the important battle: getting Buffy to stop deceiving herself and everyone else about their feelings. The woman was stubborn. Spike smiled because he was even more stubborn.

The house was dark when Spike strolled up the sidewalk. The door opened and Dawn came sailing out. "I'm off."

"Don't forget—"

"Got it!" Dawn cut her sister off and slammed the door mid-nag.

"Bit," Spike said as he looked at the bag thrown over her shoulder. "So, running away from home, then?"

Dawn laughed and came over to throw her arms around him. Spike hugged her back, feeling her heat and the steady thumping of her heart. The idea that Warren was getting stripped to the bone and eaten just made the feel of her arms around him even better. "I'm having a sleepover at Janice's," she said. She turned and waved at a car. Inside a middle aged woman with jowls waited, a girl about Dawn's age in the front seat waving back.

"You two planning on going out drinking or chasing boys?" Spike asked. Those might be normal enough pastimes for a girl Dawn's age, but if Dawn was planning to do either, Spike needed to make sure they got home safe.

Dawn rolled her eyes at him. "No. What I plan is a night of painting our toenails and watching chick flicks. Are you going to stalk us?"

"For chick flicks? Fuck no," Spike answered. From Dawn's expression, she was telling the truth, but it still bothered Spike a bit that Buffy hadn't warned him the Bit was going out. Sunnydale was a dangerous place, and he wasn't sure this Janice was a safe enough place for her. He dropped his cigarette to the ground and crushed it. "You have weapons?" he asked soft enough that no one could overhear.

"Two stakes and a knife. I'm okay, Spike. Geez, you're as big of a worrywart as Buffy."

"Oi!" Spike objected, but then Dawn went up on her toes and gave him a peck on the cheek, and he couldn't help but smile at her.

"See you tomorrow!" Dawn said before she ran for her friend's car. Spike watched as she got in and the car vanished. Spike would get Janice's address from Buffy and check the place out before he went home. Felt wrong, having family spread out so much, but that was humanity for you... downright illogical at times.

Spike headed up the steps and walked into Buffy's house without knocking. She was picking up a bowl from the coffee table, and she froze for a second, her whole body tight. Spike smiled. Already she was itching for a quick tumble; he could see it in the way her muscles tenses and her eyes dilated. She said all sort of things when the others were around, but her body would always yearn for him.

"Spike, what are you doing here?"

"Wot? I need an excuse to come visit?"

"Actually, yes. You do. Excuses would be good. You not coming over at all would be better."

Ignoring the insult, Spike walked over to the sofa and threw himself down on it, propping one boot on the table. Buffy hit his foot, and he smiled as he shifted it to the floor. Given a little prodding, Buffy did make a beautiful and vicious domme.

"Is there a reason for your visit?" Buffy put the bowl back on the coffee table, crossed her arms and glared down at him.

"Yep." Spike gave her his best smile, the one that always tempted the good little prey into his bed and made Angelus backhand him. "Wanted to give you a chance to enjoy my company." Buffy snorted. "That and I wanted to let you know Warren's gone. The wanker hired the demon who sent you 'round the twist, so Xander and I took care of him."

Buffy took a step back. "Took care of?"

Spike shrugged. It still irked him that he hadn't been able to take care of it himself, but he wasn't some insecure git who took other's credit. "Xander shot him, twice in the heart."

"Xander...." Buffy made a strange noise in the back of her throat and then she started shaking her head. "No, Xander wouldn't do that."

"Took him too long, but he finally got around to finishing the job." Spike stretched and watched Buffy through half-closed eyes, waiting for her move. Instead Buffy dropped down onto a chair.

"He... he killed Warren? Xander wouldn't do that. He isn't...." Her voice trailed off. Spike wasn't really surprised at the shock though. Hell, up until Xander pulled the trigger, Spike had been starting to wonder if the boy had any balls at all, despite Anya's colorful descriptions of him as being endowed like a Viking.

"When Warren didn't fall for any of the puppy boy's plans, Xander finally went over to deal with him directly."

"Plans?" Buffy glared at Spike.

"You know, talking Jonathan into going down to L.A."

"But...." Buffy was definitely off her game today. "He said he ran into Jonathan, that they just started to talk."

Spike frowned. What the bloody hell was Xander doing lying about what he'd done? The only time Spike had ever lied to Angelus was when he was about to sell him out to the slayer. "He said that?"

"Yeah. Spike, what is he not telling me?"

Spike sat up. Bloody right the slayer could trust him. "The boy and I snatched Jonathan up off the streets, and Xander talked some rot about comic books and right and wrong and then he talked Jonathan into going to stay with that nancy-boy watcher of Angel's."

Buffy smiled. "Okay, that sounds like Xander. Except for the snatching part, which sounds more like you, Spike."

"I helped," Spike agreed. "Bloody chip kept me from doing much but driving."

She nodded. "I bet you helped Xander with killing Warren, too, didn't you?"

"Helped him get the gun and drove him over. Then I was stuck outside listening to him try to talk Warren around to being a white hat. That one wasn't ever going to change, but Xander just kept trying to reason with him until the wanker finally threatened to rape Dawn. Apparently he thought his demon had done its work and you were helpless to protect any of us."

"So Xander killed him?" Buffy had a strange tone to her voice. Spike frowned and tried to figure out what she had running through her head.

"Shot him twice in the heart, but I arranged for some demons to come get the body, so the boy's in the clear." Spike sprawled, his arms stretched out on the back of the couch.

"You." Buffy stopped, her lips pressed tightly together, and Spike could feel a wisp of fear. Back in the day, that look meant Darla was about to take a whip to him until he couldn't stand on his own. "Get out." Buffy's voice was slow and measured.

"Wot?"

"I can't believe you. You backed Xander into a corner, and then you're going to come over here bragging about it?" Buffy was up on her feet, a finger pointed in his direction, and Spike sat up fast. "What? Isn't it enough that you corrupted me, but now you have to go ruining Xander's life?"

"I never—"

"Get out." Buffy's whole body was trembling, and Spike could smell the aggression and need rolling from her like a heavy fog.

"Going to play that game again, are we?" Spike stood up, bending his elbows as he prepared for the attack. Buffy did like her games, almost as much as she liked ripping through his back with her nails, leaving him bleeding and sore. Spike's cock was getting hard in anticipation.

"I told you, we're done."

"I heard that chorus before, luv." Spike pursed his lips and stalked closer, lured by the scent of Buffy's desire. She was breathing fast, and he could hear each heavy breath and her heart pounding.

"I mean it this time."

"No, luv, you don't," Spike said. "No need to keep lying to yourself?"

"Don't say that!" Buffy's fists came up, and her smell sharpened. Breathing in the scent of Buffy's desire, Spike smiled. "Just...." Buffy stepped back. "Okay, so I have some feelings."

"Some?"

"Okay, more than some. I have a lot of hard, sweaty feelings. But it's not love. Don't you see that?"

Spike moved forward again. "I see how much you want me."

"Do you see that I can't trust you?" Buffy's words cut through Spike, and he stopped. If this was some new game of hers, he didn't like it. Often as not she verbally and physically dominated him, but she'd never questioned his loyalty.

"You think I'd sell you out, side with some wanker like Warren who wanted to kill you?"

Buffy sighed. "No." Spike tried to not show the relief he felt at that, and Buffy kept on going. "But I can't trust you to understand what I'm feeling, what I need."

That made Spike laugh. "Trust is for old marrieds, Buffy. Great love is wild ... and passionate and dangerous. It burns and consumes." He stalked forward. "That's what you need. You need to let the fire take you until you don't have to think about anything but the passion." Spike had seen it a dozen times, the way Buffy's pain and loss would fall from her in the middle of their sex. She'd start full of conflicts and hurt, but he'd erase that... make her feel alive and whole and dominate.

"But until there's nothing left," she said softly. "Until there's nothing left of me... of the people I love. Love like that doesn't last, and how many people are going to be hurt?" That slight sour of pain was there in her scent, and Spike snorted at the wrongness of that. She just needed to slip back into their roles, and she could let that pain slide away.

"I know you feel the passion. You don't have to hide it anymore." Spike reached out, but Buffy yanked her hand away before Spike could catch it.

"Spike, please stop trying to make this work. It won't."

"Let yourself feel it." Spike whispered the words, his voice a plea. When he moved forward, she hesitated, and he slipped his hands around her waist, feeling all that strength below her skin. She was more demon than human some days, and he could see the wildness in her now.

"No."

"You love me." Spike leaned in to kiss her, waiting for her legs to wrap around him, taking him to the ground.

"No, stop it." She sounded cranky now, and Spike smiled and tried to grind his body against her. She just needed reminding of just what he could do for her.

"Admit it, luv. We're made for each other."

Buffy caught his arm and wrenched it so that muscle and tendon strained. Spike hissed through his teeth, his cock totally hard now. He grabbed her hair and tried to pull her close for a kiss. He loved that she would use his body any way she wanted, but he craved a kiss. She pushed at his shoulders, letting go of his arm, and Spike grappled for dominance. He'd never get it, but pushing Buffy to take control was the best part of the game.

"Ow, stop it." Buffy twisted and fabric ripped in Spike's hand. Well, that was one more shirt for the rubbish bin. He'd hear about that later, but not until Buffy was hot and stated, her limp body lying across his.

"What the hell do you—" Buffy's words were cut off as she hit the chair with the back of her leg and tumbled to the ground. Spike was on her in a second, pinning her to the ground and smelling the aggression like a perfume.

"Ow!" Buffy tried to crab walk out of the small space between the coffee table and chair, but Spike had her trapped.

"Let it go. Let yourself love me."

"Get off me!" Buffy brought up a knee that caught Spike just under the ribs, and he grunted in pain.

"Fuck yeah." His eyes went yellow and his whole body was tense, ready for a fight or a fuck. He hadn't felt this since Dru... or since Dru'd stopped having good days, anyway. After Prague, they'd never been the same. His vicious plum had seemed to barely notice him most of the time, but Buffy wasn't going to ignore him. She couldn't claim to be off talking to stars or dolls. When she needed him, he'd given up everything to be hers, and she was going to see just how much he loved her, no matter what he had to do. "You have more in you than that, luv," Spike crooned.

"No, stop it!"

"I know you feel our passion, our fire. When I'm inside you, that's when you come alive." Spike ran a tongue over her neck, feeling the heat and tasting the salt.

Buffy shoved him back and scrambled for the couch. Spike reached out, catching her foot, and she went down in an inglorious heap, her head hitting the coffee table with a loud crack. Spike flinched. If they broke that, he was never hearing the bloody end of it.

"Ow. no, Spike don't, please," Buffy cried out.

"I know how to make it all better. Going to make you feel good," Spike promised. He reached for her, and she made an awkward roll to the side to get out of his way, almost like she meant to lose the battle. That wasn't part of their normal game at all, but he'd done that for Dru often enough, taking the dominant role, playing at a relationship that didn't really exist between them. On the worst days, she'd call him daddy when she'd begged him to hurt her. Spike shoved that memory aside and focused on Buffy.

He focused a half-second too late. Buffy's punch caught him in the middle of the face and sent him sailing backwards. He hit the chair, tumbled over it, and crashed to the ground.

Spike bounced back up, confused and bleeding from the nose. That soddin' hurt.

"Stop!" Buffy said coldly. Her tone more than her word stopped him. Spike frowned at what he saw. Her body was defensive, but not coiled with power the way it usually was when they were together. Instead she almost looked like she was curling up inside herself, hugging her own body the way the puppy boy would. She held one side of her blouse up, the fabric ripped and a rug burn already showing through on the skin below.

"Buffy?" Spike cocked his head and sniffed the air. Her musk was there, dominating the space, but instead of being tinted with lust and power, there was a weariness in it, a pain that he'd never smelled before. Spike looked at her again, slowly realizing that this wasn't like every other time they'd been together. She wasn't fighting back. She wasn't digging her fingernails into his back and demanding that his body yield in ways a human couldn't survive.

"Ask me again why I could never love you," Buffy asked quietly.

Spike's blood turned to ice. He hadn't meant-- He never—Spike's thoughts chased through his head as he remembered every time they'd been together, every time he'd had to taunt her, encourage that demoness to slip out from under the weary and defeated woman Buffy had become.

"Buffy, my god, I didn't—" Spike stopped. He didn't mean to try and rape her. That was Angelus' game, and Spike generally preferred his partners willing. He wanted them reaching for him, not crawling to get away. He'd had enough of lovers who didn't actually want him. However, before he could explain any of that, Buffy cut him off.

"Because I stopped you," she snapped, and he had no comeback for that. "Which is something I should have done a long time ago."

"We're good together," Spike argued. Okay, he'd fucked this up, but there was room to recover.

"No, we aren't," Buffy said firmly. "You convinced Xander to kill someone. You convince me to—" She stopped.

"You loved every second," Spike snapped. He'd never made her do anything. Not until things had just gotten out of hand.

"I shouldn't have, Spike. That's my point. You need to leave, and you need to not come back." Buffy crossed her arms.

Spike wanted to argue, to slide up close to her and whisper in her ear. He wanted to feel her hands holding him down, fingers pressing deep into his flesh. However, some little part of his brain cautioned him that he was dangerously close to provoking the slayer in her. Spike backed up toward the door.

"Spike," Buffy said. Spike looked at her. "I mean it. Don't ever come back. I can't trust you, and I won't have you around Dawn."

Spike turned and strode out the door, his guts twisting so painfully that he actually touched his stomach to check for some sort of wound. Fuck. Fuck it all. It wasn't his fault. He just... he didn't understand how people worked. He didn't understand Xander or Tara or Buffy with her fucking rules that never made one bit of sense. Spike found himself running down the dark road without any destination in mind.
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Date: 2010-07-16 03:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skeptic7.livejournal.com
Am I first?

Date: 2010-07-16 04:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lit-gal.livejournal.com
Yep, that you are. The throne is yours.

Date: 2010-07-16 03:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mulder200.livejournal.com
Wow! Nice twist to one of the most controversial scenes in Buffy.

I do feel bad for Spike though. He's a demon trying to live in a human's world and the rules that work with demons don't apply to humans.

And now Buffy knows about Xander killing Warren. This is going to very messy indeed.

Date: 2010-08-01 06:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lit-gal.livejournal.com
I never saw the scene, but the rape really is more complicated than a human attacking another human. Without a soul, I can't see Spike understanding how this is different from any of the other power games they played, and yes, Buffy knows.

Date: 2010-07-16 03:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skeptic7.livejournal.com
Oh poor Spike. Doesn't he understand Buffy better than this? Even by Vampire Master standards this isn't how it should work. Buffy doesn't realize that Xander is making adult decisions so she thinks that Spike is using Xander as a cat's paw. In Vampire terms, Spike is using a Master Vampire's minion without permission.
This is so totally messed up from everyone's perspective, except for the demons who ate Warren. I love Dawn's sleepover which is normal, almost too normal for the Buffy angst world.

Date: 2010-08-01 06:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lit-gal.livejournal.com
That's just it... he doesn't. Buffy has played power games in the past and without the soul, I really don't think he can distinguish what is and is not "acceptable." He's a demon.

Whoah

Date: 2010-07-16 03:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catservant66.livejournal.com
Eerie...I was just thinking not ten seconds ago--what I really need tonight is a new chapter of Butterfly Kisses. Thanks for posting tonight--and before bedtime! (off to read)

Re: Whoah

Date: 2010-08-01 06:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lit-gal.livejournal.com
And clearly, you already found that I have more up now.

Butterfly 19

Date: 2010-07-16 03:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catservant66.livejournal.com
I love this chapter--forgive my greed but I hope you post 20 soon!

Date: 2010-07-16 03:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ophite68.livejournal.com
Beautiful, and so in character that even now Buffy won't credit the real threat that Warren represented. Just as in her dating life she never credited a man who was not supernaturally charged up in some way with any real responsibility in dealing with the threats of the world.

I wonder if she will reject Xander now that he has stepped outside of her expectations.

Date: 2010-08-01 06:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lit-gal.livejournal.com
Buffy does seem to divide the world into humans (harmless) and demons (dangerous), which makes no sense giving what they've seen and fought by this point. I was always sorry that Buffy and the writers didn't give Riley a chance.

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Date: 2010-07-16 03:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spiceblueeyes.livejournal.com
Wow, I always hated that scene in canon, and I like how you redid it here. You get to see much more of what was going through Spike's mind. Now we have to see if he'll end up getting his soul.
You're really churning out the chapters, go you!

Date: 2010-08-01 06:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lit-gal.livejournal.com
I never watched it; reading the transcripts was bad enough. I really do think that Spike was acting in good faith... otherwise he never would have gone for the soul, but he was just so clueless.

Date: 2010-07-16 04:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shakatany.livejournal.com
What a version of the infamous AR scene. In that one I always felt Buffy's previous nos had meant yes (I kept flashing to that scene in "Singing in the Rain" where the soundtrack is misaligned)as part of a weird game they played and Spike simply thought this was one more time. This version is far more complex and Spike far more complicit in trying to force Buffy to be what he wants her to be. Now that Buffy knows about Xander and what he did to Warren I'm afraid she'll go looking for him and find out about Bonnie. And what about budding witch Willow who will think Spike somehow forced Xander to kill Warred. I fear we may yet meet Dark!Willow.

As always more when you can.

Shakatany

Date: 2010-07-16 04:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragonyphoenix.livejournal.com
Oooh, comic cover icon. I know this makes me seem like a geek (seem? I am a geek), but right now I'm thinking you are too cool for words.

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Date: 2010-07-16 04:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragonyphoenix.livejournal.com
I thought Spike's version here was just fascinating. As far as he's concerned, it's just an extension of their usual games. Oooh, nicely done and just a tad creepy.

he didn't understand how people worked. ... Spike found himself running down the dark road without any destination in mind. Yep, poor Spike.

Date: 2010-08-01 06:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lit-gal.livejournal.com
I can see Spike interpreting the world that way. He doesn't have a soul, and I can see where that would negate any understanding of right and wrong in the general sense.

Date: 2010-07-16 05:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chaoskir.livejournal.com
Whoa!!
Spike is a poor vampire. He'll never understand the rules of the living human beings wit a soul.
Great update! Thanks!

Date: 2010-08-01 06:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lit-gal.livejournal.com
That's just it... he mimics human behavior, he doesn't understand it.

Date: 2010-07-16 05:23 am (UTC)
ext_252155: silver wings (Crimson Truths)
From: [identity profile] zilentdreamer.livejournal.com
Crap crap crap!

Now that Buffy knows she's going to go running off to find Xander, only when she gets there Clem will probably be babysitting Bonnie and when she goes psycho slayer Xander's going to have to defend his daughter and buffy is going to be furious and and....

So much shit is going to hit the fan that they'll never get the smell out of the carpets.

Date: 2010-08-01 06:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lit-gal.livejournal.com
Well... you'll just have to see. Two more chapters up tonight. But I do agree about one thing--the shit is going to hit the fan.

Date: 2010-07-16 10:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seadragonlady.livejournal.com
Oh dear this is get messy but in a good/bad way. Yes I'm conflicted but I am really enjoying the story anyway.

Date: 2010-08-01 06:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lit-gal.livejournal.com
It has to get messy now because I don't want that weird fragmented version of the Scoobies going into season seven.

Date: 2010-07-16 12:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skargasm.livejournal.com
To be able to see Spike's side of that episode makes so much difference. Souless, he can only go on what he knows and what he's learnt and Buffy spent a lot of time saying no but meaning yes. Weirdly, I feel sorry for Spike and angry with Buffy.

Am really hoping she doesn't hurt Xander - not physically, I mean with her reaction to him killing Warren. And I don't even want to think about Willow.

Another amazing chapter - thank you.

Date: 2010-08-01 06:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lit-gal.livejournal.com
I'm so glad you liked it. I see demons in this world as being very animalistic, and animals only know what you've trained them to know. Buffy has trained Spike. She may not like that training now, but without a soul, he can't understand that.

Date: 2010-07-16 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dalefarwalker.livejournal.com
Wow!

With the what's going on in Spike's head, That scene makes so much more sense. And the history of no that means yes, and the violence in their relationship.

And yup - Buffy's probably going to try to rescue Xander and it might get ugly. Do they even know where he lives?

Date: 2010-08-01 06:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lit-gal.livejournal.com
Thank you so much. I do think Spike assumes it's a game... that he's doing what Buffy wants. And thankfully, Buffy does not have Xander's address.

Date: 2010-07-16 02:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] edgebot.livejournal.com
Ooh, this was good! Can't wait to see the confrontation between Buffy and Xander. I love this fic so much : )

Date: 2010-08-01 06:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lit-gal.livejournal.com
I've been so busy lately :< However, I do now have the next two chapters up.

Date: 2010-07-16 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] humanoidmegg.livejournal.com
and now you're making me feel really bad for spike! which i did a little in the actual episode but no where near like this ... you're evil! ;-D and completely awesome!!!

Date: 2010-08-01 06:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lit-gal.livejournal.com
I have to admit, reading the transcripts, I am feeling sorry for Spike. He's like a poorly trained dog... well meaning but dangerous.

Date: 2010-07-16 03:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 1-mad-squirrel.livejournal.com
Oh, man, heavy.

Date: 2010-08-01 06:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lit-gal.livejournal.com
Thank you.

Chpt 19

Date: 2010-07-16 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clucksy.livejournal.com
Wow! Can't wait for the next chapter. How is Xander going to feel about being outed to Buffy. You just know he was expecting to keep what he did to Warren a secret from her.

Re: Chpt 19

Date: 2010-08-01 06:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lit-gal.livejournal.com
I've had stuff going on, and that slowed me down, but I have the next two chapters up now.

Date: 2010-07-16 05:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] texanfan.livejournal.com
Oh, ow. Honestly, I think this was more emotionally devastating than the scene in the show. Step by step you can see Spike making the wrong decision, the wrong inference. Mentions of Dru and how Angelus had completely twisted her sexuality make the whole thing form such a desperate and sad sense. Spike's expectations are all screwed up and only a small part of it is his fault.

I like that you fixed what, for me, was a glaring error in the show about this scene. Buffy does trust Spike. She trusts him almost automatically throughout the series. But she can't trust him to have any clue what the humans around him need on a fundamental moral and spiritual level. She's trying to show him that he's running around shattering them thinking he's helping and he's incapable of seeing it.

Is it so very wrong that a part of me delights at the thought that Warren is being eaten as this scene plays out? :)

Date: 2010-08-01 06:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lit-gal.livejournal.com
Wow, that's quite the compliment. Thank you. I really do see demons in this universe as having instincts that are very animalistic, and Spike's instincts have been trained to expect a certain level of violence in sex. He doesn't see this as right or wrong because he doesn't have the soul to make that judgment. For him, it's just normal.

And I'm glad I wasn't the only one that went o.0 on the trust line. Dude, she trusted him with her sister. However, can can see where she wouldn't trust his judgment or his morals after this.

Date: 2010-07-17 05:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ctrl-issue.livejournal.com
Wow oh wow oh wow. Seriously twists a person up inside like a used dish rag until there's just a bunch of hurt left.

I'm terrified for what Spike is going to be like once he gets back to the house, and he sees Xander there. Xander who Buffy trusts/trusted enough to share her soul and emotions with. Who he knows Buffy loves - not like a lover, but its still a love he now knows she'll never give to him. And Xander trusts Spike, even if he doesn't want to admit it. Will Spike want to stay away, keep his mistake and his shame hidden? Will he go after the soul or will he try to be more of a demon? Will he be willing to sacrifice his family for a fantasy that might never come true?

I'm terrified of what Buffy is going to do now that she knows that Xander has killed a man, a mortal human man. I'm not sure she has a leg to stand on considering that Giles did as much for her when he killed Glory's host AFTER the battle was over and Glory had retreated into Ben. But that hasn't stopped her from getting self-righteous in the past, so... Then again, all she'll have to do is talk to Willow and Willow may just try to lay the whammy on him, which in turn might get Tara involved in a magic war between a lone kitchen witch and whatever coven Willow's gotten herself involved with.

I'm terrified of what Xander's going to do and/or say when he finds out that Spike tried to rape Buffy, something he already SHOT a man for. Granted, Warren threatened to rape Willow and Dawn as well, but those were just threats. Spike actually got physical with Buffy. And yes, that's part of Buffy's training of Spike, where she would tell him NO and then push him down and ride him like her life depended on it. But I'm not so sure Xander's going to see that at first.

At the same time, I love, love, love knowing that Spike desires to be dominated. I think that's sexy as hell. At the same time, all I really want right now is for Spike to -ask- for Xander's affection. In fact, I think I'm going to go to my happy place and imagine Xander holding and hugging Spike after he's fucked Spike stupid.

Date: 2010-08-01 06:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lit-gal.livejournal.com
Awwwww. I'm so glad I could tie you up in knots.

I think that if Spike really had a chance to think about the unfairness of Xander being in her good graces when Spike wasn't--yeah, that would turn ugly as hell. But first, he's going to go out and get absolutely plastered. He's going to be drunk off his ass. If Xander doesn't do something by the time Spike sobers up, yep, the badness could lie that way.

Date: 2010-07-17 06:21 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] laazikaat.livejournal.com
Beautifully explained reasoning as to why Spike would feel a need for a soul, something I could never really 'get' from just watching that episode. You do such a fantastic job of getting under Spike's skin.

Small typo
he could see it in the way her muscles tenses tensed and her eyes dilated

Date: 2010-08-01 06:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lit-gal.livejournal.com
I can see Spike doing it out of loyalty... my god, his loyalty to Dru is amazing. However, I agree that it's a little odd in canon. I would think it would take more to rattle a master vampire.

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From: [identity profile] realpestilence.livejournal.com - Date: 2010-08-24 09:30 am (UTC) - Expand

Date: 2010-07-17 09:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lil-coyote.livejournal.com
Not sure I can wince big enough. An ugly end to an ugly situation. She was using him because she knew she couldn't love him and he thought it was love because he wanted to see what she was doing as all the right signals of love from a demony point of view. Yes, she was trying to deal with a situation someone else screwed up, but she made that monster herself. And she knows about Xander. If she goes all self-righteous on him about what he did, it's not going to help.

Date: 2010-08-01 06:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lit-gal.livejournal.com
This was an ugly episode, and since I'm trying to realistically deal with canon, I really couldn't do much to make it pretty. Everyone is wrong... absolutely everyone. And there's not an easy way to fix it, either.

Date: 2010-07-18 02:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zazreil.livejournal.com
you know I know I know Spike has made some really bad mistakes and he really doesn't understand her - well humans - well souls. And from an empirical stand point I understand why Buffy sends him away. But the fact that he can't understand, that he loves and that he tries so hard makes me hurt for him. He is handicapped, not a physical handicap but handicapped never the less, and despite the handicap he does try. Its sort of why I found I liked Dexter, I swore I would never watch it but my parents watch it and seeing a few episodes with them made me like it, because despite his limitations Dexter tries.

Zaz
Edited Date: 2010-07-18 02:58 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-08-01 06:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lit-gal.livejournal.com
I love your analogy... in many ways Spike has the exact same disability as Dexter. They're both smart and they can mimic human behavior, but they simply don't understand it... not in their hearts.

Date: 2010-08-24 09:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] realpestilence.livejournal.com
I really don't like the way Buffy puts all the blame on Spike, how ~he "corrupted" her, and ~he convinved Xander to kill a man, etc. She's avoiding her own responsibility and taking away Xander's, at the same time.

Spike did exactly the same thing Xander did, when he was possessed. Everybody forgave Xander, ~because he was possessed...and that's basically what a vampire is. Looks human enough, has some memories and physical traits...but that is NOT a human being. Soul or no soul, we're talking about an entirely different species of sentient creature here!

I mean, Clem has a soul, right? He doesn't necessarily understand humans all the time, and vice versa.

Date: 2010-09-09 07:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] windchild85.livejournal.com
I'm finally catching up on this amazing series you've written. I know it's a WIP, and I'm looking forward to the rest of the chapters that have been written so far. Awesome stuff!

A couple of things I noticed:

"She'd start full of conflicts and hurt, but he'd erase that... make her feel alive and whole and dominate." Did you mean dominant?

"He'd hear about that later, but not until Buffy was hot and stated, her limp body lying across his." Did you mean sated?


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